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According to Swedish media SK is getting even closer grand canyon tour from las vegas to bankruptcy. The major banks are refusing to extend their loans and the Swedish, Danish and Norwegian governments has already recived grand canyon tour from las vegas complaints for helping grand canyon tour from las vegas SK witk loans from the European Commission.
From what I understand, the SAS managmnet has announced an adittional plan to save money for SAS, wich include a possible 15 - 25 % cut in salaries and possible sales of SGH, bonus program Eurobonus and Widerøe Airlines.
Don't understand what they can gain from a possible sale of Widerøe wich is one of the few parts of SAS that really ean money. But from what I have read, the Widerøe airline can be worth as much as 1 - 2 billion NOK and a sale can give SAS parts of the money it needs. Still I am very sceptical of how smart it would be in the long run ...
Agreed, but the dark cloud for WF it has a lot of old Dashes that will need to be replaced or expensively renewed. Wideroe operates 19 DHC-8-100s, 3 DHC-8-200s, grand canyon tour from las vegas 8 DHC-8-300s and 9 DHC-8-400s. IMHO, about the only a/c that can currently replace the 100s-200s-300s is the ATR42
As someone who is unfamiliar with the SAS situation, there is now way they will be going out of business like Malev anytime soon right? I have a ticket booked on them in December... should grand canyon tour from las vegas I be nervous?
grand canyon tour from las vegas Quoting bjorn14 ( Reply 2 ): Agreed, but the dark cloud for WF it has a lot of old Dashes that will need to be replaced or expensively renewed. Wideroe operates 19 DHC-8-100s, 3 DHC-8-200s, 8 DHC-8-300s and 9 DHC-8-400s. IMHO, about the only a/c that can currently replace the 100s-200s-300s is the ATR42
Quoting ATLFlyer323 ( Reply 3 ): As someone who is unfamiliar with the SAS situation, there is now way they will be going out of business like Malev anytime soon right? I have a ticket booked on them in December... should I be nervous?
I remember them offering very competitive fares from Germany to the US, to SE Asia and to various European destinations. Nowadays it seems that you cannot fly with SK on a budget anymore. If they didn't make any money back then, at least they had some additional revenue.
Quoting ATLFlyer323 ( Reply 3 ): As someone who is unfamiliar with the SAS situation, grand canyon tour from las vegas there is now way they will be going out of business like Malev anytime soon right? grand canyon tour from las vegas I have a ticket booked on them in December... should grand canyon tour from las vegas I be nervous?
They are, indeed, if one travels from one non scandinavian airport to another non scandinavian airport. grand canyon tour from las vegas MUC - EWR via CPH or ARN is just unpayable if one buys a direct ticket. However, purchasing MUC - CPH and CPH - EWR separately may result in a considerably lower ticket price. And leave you stranded in CPH and with a useless ticket grand canyon tour from las vegas to EWR if MUC - CPH was late...
On the other hand, SAS offers quite a nice - to my mind - premium economy class. 2-3-2 instead of 2-4-2 and quite a friendly amount of leg space on the 333 and 343, which neither Swiss nor LH or OA have, even if LH seems to be planning for one. Somebody, who is not willing to pay for Business but wants more than Tourist will find SK 's premium eco quite appreciable.
Also, there are frequent reports that SAS staff would be way too well paid. One has to keep in mind, however, that a) Norway is an extreme grand canyon tour from las vegas example of a high price country and b) the gradients in salaries in Scandinavia are relatively modest compared to other countries (some would call it "socialist") and it's close to impossible to tame the trade unions.
SK is a lost cause, only nostalgic Scandinavians care about them anymore, there are so many options really, I would not feel sad if they go. Why should scandinavian taxpayers sink billions to keep them alive?! grand canyon tour from las vegas There are so many other areas that need money better IMO.
Quoting Ferroviarius ( Reply 9 ): They are, indeed, if one travels from one non scandinavian airport to another non scandinavian airport. MUC - EWR via CPH or ARN is just unpayable if one buys a direct ticket. However, purchasing MUC - CPH and CPH - EWR separately may result in a considerably lower ticket price. And leave you stranded in CPH and with a useless ticket to EWR if MUC - CPH was late...
There are two possible scenarios. One is that SAS closes shop outright, to re-emerge SN /SR style in a much trimmed and reduced version. Second is being taken over by somebody, which due to EU ownership laws would have to be a EU based somebody. Of those I think the first is the most plausible, not least because the ownership structure of SAS does not lend itself to being an object of possible take-over. grand canyon tour from las vegas Far easier, from a political point of view, to let it sink and have the private sector take over the bits and bobs it fancies.
grand canyon tour from las vegas There are two possible scenarios. One is that SAS closes shop outright, grand canyon tour from las vegas to re-emerge SN /SR style in a much trimmed and reduced version. Second is being taken over by somebody, which due to EU ownership grand canyon tour from las vegas laws would have to be a EU based somebody. grand canyon tour from las vegas Of those I think the first is the most plausible, not least because the ownership grand canyon tour from las vegas structure of SAS does not lend itself to being an object of possible take-over. Far easier, from a political point of view, to let it sink and have the private sector take over the bits and bobs it fancies.
Well, I do not really agree. The fact is that politics is too much involved here. The losses are not so dramatic that they would really demand a solution, which would put a definitive end to the losses. I think there is still a majority of people in Scandinavia, who prefer to have a carrier like SAS, anchored in state ownership, in service (besides smaller private carriers like Norwegian or Mærsk), even if the same majority of people will continue to curse and shout because of the losses. It's contradictory, indeed, if seen from outside, but many Scandinavians, possibly the majority of the electorates, when being faced with the alternatives of either paying the losses or giving up SAS, will reluctantly accept the former.
grand canyon tour from las vegas There had been long discussions here in Norway when Braathens was taken over by SAS, also when Color Air was competed to ruin by SAS, and the final upshot was that "everybody" insists on TWO carriers for Norway in order to get a kind of competition keeping the prices low. I personally do not understand how this works at the low density of population in major parts of the country, I fear that I anyway do pay a lot of taxes to keep airports like Kirkenes open for traffic. It's really stupid, but a huge part of the taxes paid in Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim goes to the so called "district" in order to grant some guys out there a life in the luxury of fresh air, water, silence, landscape, cell phone, TV , supermarket grand canyon tour from las vegas and I-do-not-know-what without being of ANY use for people in Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim (unless they have a cottage out there, which only a wealthy minority do have).
Business Class - attention is needed here. It needs to be something exportable grand canyon tour from las vegas to both the rest of Europe and to Asia. That means more luxury, which will ruffle the nose of some scandinavians. But remember the question to Ask is why should I fly J SAS long haul and not Air France or Lufthansa etc. It's either price or product grand canyon tour from las vegas or a combination of both.
But that is easier said then done as you are competing with other larger, more established, European carriers. Finnair, while seen as doing better than SAS, hasn't been profitable for several years and has been constantly outsourcing its European network as much as possible.
Let me tell about a recent experience I had with SAS. I am on a regular basis on a CPH - ZRH roundtrip, grand canyon tour from las vegas and has been so for quite some years. I always book with Swiss because they operate that route with real aeroplanes, A320 or ARJ instead of the cramped SAS CRJ-900 straws. But last time schedule convenience took priority over comfort, so homewards I chose a codeshare flight operated grand canyon tour from las vegas by SAS. After all, the suffering takes an end when it is only one and a half hours flight. For that flight....:
At the gate before grand canyon tour from las vegas boarding a gate agent made an announcement on the gate PA system in Swiss German dialect and broken English, neither of which I understood. I went up to the gate agent and asked him what had been told. He told me that because the plane is small, grand canyon tour from las vegas then big handbags should be put on a cart at the gate and on arrival be picked up from a cart at the arrival gate. I asked him if my bag was big, which he declined. So far so good.
Then we boarded. Then the gate agent said something in Swiss German dialect to the gentlemen in front of me in the queue line. That gentlemen answered with a "What?" in Swedish language with a distinct Scania dialect.
Then the passenger said: "Now please listen. My hand bag is within limits, grand canyon tour from las vegas and I cannot leave it out of sight. Even if the risk may be small, I am not allowed leave it out of sight because it potentially could jeopardize the health of my company, and it sure jeopardizes my job. We are not discussing whether I leave my bag or not. There are two options: 1) I am on this plane with my handbag. 2) I am not on the plane, you deliver me my checked bag, I go by other means, and when home I report to the company travel manager never to use your airline again.
That means we went into the bus which drives us to the plane parked way out on the tarmac. In the bus the passenger grand canyon tour from las vegas met a colleague. He wondered, "where h
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